On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:42:18 -0500 Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 08:48:23AM +0100, Matěj Cepl wrote: > > Dne 12.3.2010 02:26, Mike Chambers napsal(a): > > > On F13, upgrade gnome-panel to version in updates-testing and > > > you'll get > > > > When was F13 released? Oh, it wasn't, so it is just glorified > > Rawhide still? And you complain about it being broken (especially > > in its updates-*testing*)? > > > > BTW, this is the reason why I disagree with the way how we did > > unfrozen Rawhide. Instead of getting even more free version of > > Rawhide, we've got one more make update and similar non-sense. > > > Hmmm... so are we or are we not claiming that the pre-release branch > is supposed to be a valid thing for people to be running if they want > a semi-rolling flavour of Fedora? Note that I'm not claiming that you > personally are claiming that. Just that I'd be willing to try > running F+1 for a cycle or two if, in fact, it's expected to be the > place our users who want a semi-rolling experience are expected to go. > > If it's "just a glorified Rawhide" then there's really no point in > telling people to run it... they'll just get disgusted with Fedora's > stability and leave. Which is what is starting to happen with current Fedora "stable" branches given the intolerable amount of updates being crammed in. Simo. -- Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel