Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Alpha_Freeze_Policy > # At Alpha Milestone, all packages should testable and feature > complete--whether they are "official features" of the release or not And kpackagekit is hardly testable if it doesn't work at all due to unresolved symbols. In fact, the only reason it didn't fail the live image compose outright is that we've been shipping unreleased snapshots of PackageKit in the middle of PackageKit-qt ABI changes, and the soname bump was only done for the actual 0.6.2 release. I'll also note that the reason we had this breakage is that F13 is shipping PackageKit 0.6.x which is clearly not ready for production use (as evidenced by the issues seen; in fact, PackageKit reportedly didn't work at all until Alpha RC3) and which includes a PackageKit-qt binding considered an unstable development version (to the point its ABI is changing wildly and there's no official kpackagekit release to go with it yet, we've been forced to package SVN snapshots of kpackagekit, and even sometimes the exact right old revision to match that particular snapshot of PackageKit-qt). I think we really need to be more conservative about what version of our default updating tool we include in our releases (and in fact pushing PackageKit 0.6 as a post-release enhancement update once the issues with it are resolved and there is an actual kpackagekit release to go with it, while shipping F13 GA with 0.5, would probably have been much less disruptive). Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel