James Laska wrote: > Representatives from Fedora QA, Rel-Eng and Development met on IRC to > review determine whether the Fedora 13 Alpha release criteria [1] have > been met. The team agreed that the Alpha criteria have been met, and to > proceed with releasing F-13-Alpha-RC4. Oh, because a KDE live image which can't be updated without resorting to the command line is <SARCASM>obviously</SARCASM> ready for release, and because there was <SARCASM>clearly</SARCASM> no way a RC5 could have been spun in the several days between the availability of the updated kpackagekit build (to match the PackageKit snapshot used in RC4) and this meeting. On one hand we have people complaining about the quality of updates, on the other hand we're happily releasing crap we know is broken. But of course the GNOME spin "works" (for some definition of "works", they also have a PackageKit issue which was declared not a blocker – https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=567346 , which I guess also affects KPackageKit, by the way –, and they fail pretty much all the tests for beta or release quality, which I think the KDE spin would actually pass, given that this is the same 4.4.0 we pushed as F11 and F12 updates and works fine there, though I didn't bother testing this as clearly nobody cares about the KDE spin test results anyway), so nobody cares. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel