On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 12:25:01AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: >drago01 wrote: >> There has been a draft a while ago which did not result into much >> discussion .. >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Desktop/Whiteboards/UpdateExperience >> >> Which looks pretty sane to me. > >It looks very insane to me: >* only critical bugfixes, security fixes and hardware enablement for an >arbitrary class of "system" packages which isn't defined anywhere. Not even >general bugfixes! IMHO that's not at all what Fedora is or should be about. >* only weekly pushes. We should target daily pushes. Our current pushes are >too rare, not too frequent. People who only want to update once a week We do target daily pushes. There are a lot of mitigating factors that sometimes prevent a push getting done in 24 hours, but that is what I try to do. Things like large package sets/large packages (e.g. OO.org, KDE) can make a compose for a single updates repo take on the order of 8 hours. We have 5 repos we have to compose per push. Also, the older a repo is, the more overall packages there are in it, the longer it takes to mash. Also deltarpm creation is really really slow. You can extrapolate on the math from there. With NFR, we're also trying to get at least 2 F-13 pushes done per day so as to hold it up as little as possible. This is more doable since the repo is small, and we're doing targeted pushes for at least one of them. I've highlighted the issues with updates pushes and times and frequency many times in the past. We don't have an magic here, nor do I see any coming any time soon. josh -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel