Re: FESCo wants a more sane updates policy (feedback requested)

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On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 12:25:01AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>drago01 wrote:
>> There has been a draft a while ago which did not result into much
>> discussion ..
>> 
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Desktop/Whiteboards/UpdateExperience
>> 
>> Which looks pretty sane to me.
>
>It looks very insane to me:
>* only critical bugfixes, security fixes and hardware enablement for an 
>arbitrary class of "system" packages which isn't defined anywhere. Not even 
>general bugfixes! IMHO that's not at all what Fedora is or should be about.
>* only weekly pushes. We should target daily pushes. Our current pushes are 
>too rare, not too frequent. People who only want to update once a week 

We do target daily pushes.  There are a lot of mitigating factors that sometimes
prevent a push getting done in 24 hours, but that is what I try to do.  Things
like large package sets/large packages (e.g. OO.org, KDE) can make a compose
for a single updates repo take on the order of 8 hours.  We have 5 repos we
have to compose per push.  Also, the older a repo is, the more overall packages
there are in it, the longer it takes to mash.  Also deltarpm creation is
really really slow.  You can extrapolate on the math from there.

With NFR, we're also trying to get at least 2 F-13 pushes done per day so as
to hold it up as little as possible.  This is more doable since the repo is
small, and we're doing targeted pushes for at least one of them.

I've highlighted the issues with updates pushes and times and frequency many
times in the past.  We don't have an magic here, nor do I see any coming any
time soon.

josh
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