On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 08:22 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > I think the problem there is most users aren't in the system and probably > don't know / care about testing. They'll leave that to others, they don't > want to be involved, they just want to use our stuff. Most users? Sure. But that's not really important. What's important is that there is a sufficient core of users who *do* run updates-testing, know about Bodhi, and log failures when they see them. Which is true. See https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F13/FEDORA-2010-2848 for a perfect example of the system in action. A bad update was pushed to -testing, multiple people - not RH 'plants', but regular QA volunteers - saw that it caused a bug, and filed negative feedback. mclasen saw the feedback, and submitted a fixed update, which promptly got tested. It doesn't matter that not *every* user is using Bodhi, as long as *enough* are. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel