On 01/28/2010 04:06 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Ralf Corsepius<rc040203@xxxxxxxxxx> said: >> On 01/27/2010 02:17 PM, Michal Hlavinka wrote: >>> Do you think moving this is a bad idea? >> Yes. >> >> The pciutils are valuable tools when trying to recover from situations >> when "things go utterly wrong". > > So what difference does it make where they are (e.g. why do you say this > is a bad idea)? Consider having /usr on a separate partition and /usr failing to mount at bootup and times at system bootup, during which /usr is not yet available, because it has not been mounted, yet. These scenarios are the key scenarios to separate those parts of a distros which need to be considered "essential" (have to go into /lib, /bin, /sbin) and which to be consider "non-essential". > They don't work without other stuff in /usr, so they > should be in /usr. Rsp. this "other stuff currently in /usr" needs to move, too. >>> only problem can be with separate /usr partition but because of library in >>> /usr it would be already broken and I've not seen any complain about it ever. >> Well, a separate /usr-partition has never worked on RH-based distros. > > I beg to differ; I've been using a separate /usr (mounted read-only > except during maintenance) on RHL, RHEL, and Fedora for at least 13 > years. Really? The situation definitely has improved over times, but I recall times, when not even "rpm" was able to run without /usr. Consider taking out /usr from your fstab and to check how far you can get. With /sbin/lspci you will be able to check your pci setup, with /usr/sbin/lspci, you wouldn't. Should setpci be used somewhere in bootup scripts, you likely won't be able to boot up your system at all. Ralf -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel