Can we draw any parallels from work in the commercial world? (I was going to use the word 'professional' but don't want to disparage open source work... it's just a different ecosystem) So at work we have to produce a software product. We test the product to the best of our ability / to test plans / regression tests. We make an internal release and it's tested further. We release to customers and they do their own testing. Customers roll out the release for general use. At any point in the testing, defects are found and reported. These can inherently be more or less useful depending on the complexity of the fault, the level of detail, correctness, etc. BUT if there is a core file then it's always more useful than a report with no core file. Having said that the things that can be done with a mere backtrace are limited. I would almost always need to look at the corefile too, and would be frustrated if it wasn't available. Perhaps the workflow that starts with ABRT providing a backtrace needs to be significantly different to the workflow for a manually submitted bug. More automated perhaps? What if every component had a placeholder bug for undiagnosed ABRT info. Keeping all of them together would help to gauge which are significant and which are one-in-a-million cosmic rays flipping RAM bits etc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel