On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:50 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > Hi all. It has been brought to my attention that my description of my > future vision of rawhide as explained here is much clearer than previous > attempts (including the current "no frozen rawhide" wiki page). So I > felt it prudent to forward it along to the devel list for more eyes to > look upon it and comment if desired. I have two particular nits with it. One, it's pretty unwieldy, especially for part time maintainers (thinking how many hoops we'll have to jump through just to keep our packages up to date). Having to jump through the Bodhi hoops every time we just want to put a trivial update into a release that won't be coming out for five months feels like a pain. I'd worry about a lot of stuff going stale and smelly in the middle of the Bodhi process somewhere as maintainers lose track of where the hell they're up to with the four releases they have to cope with (the last two already-released releases, the upcoming release, and "rawhide"). Two, it makes testing things a bit more complex. Those of us who like to test upcoming stuff in real use - i.e. on our main machines - will have to choose whether to test "rawhide", in which case we'll have more pain to deal with ourselves and won't be contributing as much to testing of the next stable release, or test the next stable release, in which case we aren't helping maintainers by making sure the stuff they're putting in "rawhide" isn't totally broken. But overall, the positives could certainly outweigh the negatives. Just thought I'd flag up the two major concerns I have in case anything could be done about them. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list