On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 11:52 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > the rt2860sta wireless driver > > Aren't there patches for that one already? There's a hack, because I reported the problem to Orcan and he wrote a hack. If I hadn't done that there probably wouldn't be; Orcan wasn't aware of the issue until then. > As the driver is Free Software, > it can be fixed. By the time 2.6.31 gets even to updates-testing, RPM Fusion > will already have the patches. > > And, by the way, Fedora intentionally refuses to support out-of-tree kernel > drivers, see also the FESCo decision some time ago to ban standalone kmod > packages in Fedora and the rationale that was given (paraphrasing: we don't > want kmods as we think out-of-tree kernel modules should not exist). (My > personal opinion is that Free out-of-tree modules can be supported because > they can be fixed if they're broken, proprietary ones are a wholely > different issue though.) As I said, the particular code isn't the issue. We ship a kernel API. At present, we consider it fine to break that API in stable releases. This is not something that would be considered 'stable' in a traditional definition. The kernel's just an example, we do the same kind of non-stable updates all over the place. That's the issue I'm trying to talk about, not just the specific example I happened to mention. Please don't bog down in specifics. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list