On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 12:23:12PM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >On 05.08.2009 12:02, Richard Hughes wrote: >> 2009/8/5 Josephine Tannhäuser <josephine.tannhauser@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >>> KDE 4.3 will come to F11 and F10. It's a cool thing. >>> There aren't updates like this for Gnome. Why not? >>> F10 with Gnome 2.26 sounds fine to me. >> Because I don't want to _support_ the latest and greatest GNOME on old >> versions. A lot of the GNOME stack would require updating core system >> stuff like gtk+ and glib2, and when you've done that you might as well >> be running F11. I don't mind merging small patches from upstream to >> fix specific bugs, but new code brings new bugs, and that's not >> something a typical F10 user wants to cope with. In my opinion, if you >> want newer functionality, you should just upgrade to F11. > >I don't want to get between the lines here (there are good arguments and >against updating Gnome and KDE for older releases) and I hate buzz-words >like "Corporate identity", but I find it more and more odd that one >doesn't know what to expect from Fedora, because similar sized things >(KDE and Gnome) are handled quite differently. Short of passing a policy that says no major desktop upgrades for stable releases, I don't see this changing. If we did pass that, I have a feeling it would piss off a lot of people. Passing the converse (always upgrade) would piss off just as many. I'm not that enthralled with starting a "who do you want to piss off today?" campaign for Fedora. >Further: The behavior changes to much IMHO -- one reason why I use >Fedora at home and work and suggested it to others were the major new >kernel versions that got delivered as regular update. But that doesn't >really work anymore since half a year or something: F-10 is still on >2.6.27, 2.6.29 sits in Updates-testing for ages; 2.6.30 is out for >weeks, but no sign of a update for F-11 apart for a few commits in CVS. :-( I haven't followed it that closely days. However, being on the bleeding edge kernel isn't what it used to be. Yes, 2.6.30 has been out for a while. But I believe we currently wait until at least the .1 release (which was still out a while ago). Right now, .4 was just released on Jul 30. Having a bit of patience to see if the kernel is a lemon or not is pretty prudent IMHO. >A more common look and feel to the outside world and a more reliable >update scheme IMHO would be good for Fedora, as people would know what >to expect. Ohh, and it would prevent discussions like this ;-) Some of us tried that. We got critcized for it pretty heavily. josh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
