On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 04:44:44AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: >Josh Boyer wrote: >> As I said in the meeting, the underlying motivation of your proposal >> appeared to me to be seated in more of a "promote KDE" manner than an >> actual "call the Gnome spin Gnome." In that sense, changing the name of a >> spin will do nothing to further promote KDE. > >Of course it's not the only thing which needs fixing, but it's a pretty >obvious one and certainly the least controversial one (but the reactions >this simple unoffensive proposal for a mere name clarification has gotten >don't leave me very hopeful for the other changes I'd like to see :-( ). Perhaps that is the problem with your proposal. It's putting the cart before the horse. If you have a list like the one below off the top of your head on what needs to get fixed to further promote KDE, then perhaps making a change that clarifies Gnome vs. KDE and creates two equal primary spins is premature. > >Other things which need changing to make KDE equally supported include: >* making it easier to select KDE on the DVD installer (by a radiobutton >before the package selection, which should also influence the package >selection's behavior, see below), >* fixing comps so task-oriented groups like "Sound&Video" aren't biased >towards GNOME apps (this most likely requires extending the comps format or >having separate comps-kde and comps-gnome - I think extending the format to >handle conditionals based on the desktop selected via radiobutton would be >the more maintainable solution in the long run): where I'd like to get to >is that if I select Sound&Video after having selected GNOME as the desktop, >I get Totem and Rhythmbox by default and kdemultimedia, Amarok and Kaffeine >as optional checkboxes, but if I select Sound&Video after having selected >KDE as the desktop, I get kdemultimedia, Amarok and Kaffeine by default and >Totem and Rhythmbox as optional checkboxes, >* no longer hiding the KDE live image behind an extra click on the webpage, >* making sure KDE is taken into account when replacing core shared desktop >components like PolicyKit with incompatible versions (PolicyKit is just an >example here; thankfully, jreznik is taking care of PolicyKit 1 integration >with KDE) >and maybe some other things too. > >But even getting only parts of this stuff changed would make things better >than the status quo. Fixing the GNOME-based spin's name to actually >contain "GNOME" would be one such small, but significant improvement over >the status quo and send an important message. Sending a message is fine. Sending a message before that message is completely true seems to be remiss. Just a thought. josh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
