On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 13:31 -0400, David wrote: > But I wish, for his sake, that he was not having this problem on his > production machine because *I still think Rawhide on a critical, must > have machine is not a good idea.* Guys, I appreciate the concern, but this is missing the point. I have explained already why I couldn't run F9/F10, and why I upgraded to F11. For me sound is a critical issue, and due to untold number of problems in F8, I decided to risk it and move over to F11 Beta. Please try to see that _if_ I waited until F11 Final, the sound problems that I reported would not have been fixed. The works-on-no-doesn't-work sound problems have been a constant in my experience with Fedora, ever since F3 (while running only release versions, never betas until now)! By focusing on the fact that this is F11 Beta and not Final we are ignoring the elephant in the room. We all know that this is very close to what will be released as final anyway, and in fact a lot of the problems I am seeing are not reasonably fixable until release day. I am just trying to raise awareness that there is a major problem with the way we approach sound in Fedora, and we need to reevaluate the situation. And by this I don't mean "dump PA". I think Lennart is a very capable developer, and I appreciate his efforts. However I think the development focus for PA can use some rethinking. -- Dimi Paun <dimi@xxxxxxxxxxx> Lattica, Inc. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list