On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Seth Vidal <skvidal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > "This thread will bear no good results and I'm tired of everything being full of bile and vitriol" Part of the problem may be that people who are happy have no trigger that fires to tell them, "I should post a message about how happy I am!" So you wind up with lots of threads started by unhappy people. Let me tell you how happy I am. I switched from Slackware to RedHat Linux during the RedHat 4.3 era. I followed every upgrade up through RedHat 9, and then switched over to Fedora. I've had every Fedora release since installed on one machine or another. Yes, there have been some problems, but I bugzilla them and they get fixed eventually. In the meantime, I get what attracted me in the first place: the most up-to-date applications and drivers available for Linux. With Slackware, I was constantly cursing the fact that I needed feature X available in version Y of application Z, but Slackware only gave me version W < Y. I've been much happier with RedHat, and now Fedora. Things have been even better since Ville talked me into donating my private stash of RPMs to Fedora. Now other people get to take advantage of the packaging work I did, and the upstreams benefit from having more users using their code [1]. Life is good. > I won't be running for the fedora board in the next round of elections. You can run, Ralf. I hope you have great success tilting at windmills. Because of the negativity, or for other reasons? I've mostly stayed on the sidelines in the great debates that have taken place on this list. Speaking from that position, I'll say that I have recognized a small set of people whom I can count on to whine on a regular basis. Those people are only hurting their own reputations. I know who they are, and I have no respect for them at all. If one of them were to run for something, I would immediately find ANYONE else to vote for. I want people who jump in and fix things running the show, not whiners. Long live the meritocracy! Footnotes: [1] Except that I *still* have a large number of packages waiting for me to submit. If anyone sees something on [2] that you just have to have in Fedora, let me know and I'll bump its priority up [3]. [2] http://jjames.fedorapeople.org/ [3] Actually, what is mostly holding me up is finding time to review other people's packages, so I don't wind up with negative karma. I think I'm a more efficient packager than I am a package reviewer, but that probably just means that I need more practice at the latter. -- Jerry James, who did too much Usenet in the 90s http://www.jamezone.org/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list