On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 17:57 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 16:48 +0100, Naheem Zaffar wrote: > > > >> Forcing a choice at install time to uninformed users is plain bad > >> usability. Allowing those that are informed to change the defaults is > >> the right way. > > > > Naheem nailed this one. The problem with forcing a choice is that, for a > > certain group of people, the choice is nonsense: > > Do we have any reason to believe that this is a significant percentage > of the Fedora demographic? Or does it not matter if they only make up > 1%? If so, are we targeting and possible type of Fedora user? > > I personally think there would be less work to be done if Fedora > stopped partially targeting a class of newbie users who can't be > trusted to decide their own DE, but are willing to follow Fedora's > aggressive update/upgrade paths. I have seen little evidence that that > demographic even exists, yet everything seems to be done with their > best interest as the rationale. I notice you chopped out the bit of my post where I carefully addressed precisely this question. To summarize (as I see it): yes they exist, no we don't know how many there are (and I'd say that's not even important, what matters is whether we *want* there to be lots of them or not), and there's no real consensus on whether we should care a lot about them or not. This is the fundamental problem here. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list