On 04/26/2009 08:48 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:25 PM, David Woodhouse wrote:
On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 17:43 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Yes, there will always be missing entries in the DB. The same way as
there always will be missing quirks in the kernel driver. That's
something we need to accept. But there is no need to conclude from
that that it is necessary to expose the full alsa mixer all the
time --
Absolutely. I don't think anyone would suggest that we want to expose
the full alsa mixer all the time. That would be horrid. Did anyone
suggest that?
I did. But that was before I noticed that there are people who don't
want to have full control on their sound hardware, and this still
sounds weird to me.
Maybe that's because I'm an audio oriented "minority". Who knows...
I am not audio oriented, I am just a regular user who wants to be able
to see youtube clips, listen to some classic music, use VoIP and maybe
see a movie once in a while. And no, I could not do that using only the
_defaults_ from F10. I had to spend 2 days reading docs from the PA's
website, install half a dozen pav* and pa* packages and plugins, notice
that none of them is useful and finally switch to alsamixer in order to
be able to increase the level of the front mic (and just as in Will's
case, I alsoneeded to really raise the global output level to a value
which made the sound loud enough; for the first days I almost believed
that my shiny new MB is broken because with the output maxed out via
pavucontrol, it was barely audible. only after using alsamixer did I
notice that there existed yet another knob which - surprise surprise -
solved the issue)
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