On Fri, 24.04.09 16:04, Adam Williamson (awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > I'm not sure if we'll find a better solution than that in the future. > > > > I don't think we're just going to decide that Fedora doesn't care about > > these users -- and from what I saw today I don't think it's likely that > > the PA folks will decide that they _do_ care. > > > > So it looks like if we keep PulseAudio as the core around which Fedora > > audio support is based, we're _always_ going to need to keep something > > extra to fill the functionality gap. > > I was just envisaging making sure we always have a low-level mixer app > available, but not necessarily installed by default. If the Pulse stuff > gets to the point where it covers 95% of cases I personally won't lose > any sleep over having to tell the other 5% to install gnome-alsamixer or > whatever. Juggling with numbers like this is pointless in a Free Software. We have no clue about our end users. All we have is common sense -- whch in this case is not that common apparently. Apparently dwmw2's dad plus Callum Lerwick are now what we should be designing our Linux desktop for. It's very hard to reach 95% of that group. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net ICQ# 11060553 http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list