On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Mark <markg85@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> So, how much is Microsoft paying you guys? Anyone who has been >>> posting to this thread who has been receiving kickback money, please >>> let us know how much you are getting. >> >> You're going a little paranoid now i think. >> Also if you want to get it back the old way (like i do) you don't need >> to pay X.org 1 cent. Just fork it but think of the consequences if you >> do. X.org is huge. >> >> I really wonder why this change isn't reverted yet.. there are so many >> opposed to this new dontzap default that some Xorg devs just don't >> seem or want to listen. >> O and btw i had my first Xorg dontzap issue as well. luckily a CTRL + >> ALT + F# followed by a killall appname solved it and x worked fine >> again. > > Increasingly the change sounds like a good idea just for the > increasing motivation it will create to fix broken issues with X. > > X shouldn't be freezing and the causes of X freezes can be fixed. Yet > people will continue to mistakenly hit ctrl-alt-bs even if the > software is made perfect. Yes, I think this is an unimportant change, > but that doesn't mean that I don't also agree with it. > > I'm sorry, people in this thread have talked about "windows > mentality", but I think the real example of windows mentality is > having a "crash" button on your keyboard because your system sometimes > freezes. > > Shall we add a wipe-dotfiles button next because sometimes they become > corrupted and the desktop environment no longer lets you log in? Windows doesn't have a crash button. I'm not sure why you think having a button that will aid you in the event of a crash is a bad thing. However, I think you should have the choice to remove it, while is there by default for everyone else. Because in the event of a crash, you can choose not to use it, but I can't install it during the crash just so that I can then use it. And I'm not sure what would be wrong with a tool that intelligently moved dot files if it allowed a non expert user to login and get assistance. -- Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list