* Arthur Pemberton <pemboa@xxxxxxxxx> [20090417 21:15]: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Anders Rayner-Karlsson > <anders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > * Matthew Garrett <mjg@xxxxxxxxxx> [20090417 18:52]: > > [ snip ] > > > So - from my perspective, being one of those hate-object "@RH" people, > > while C-A-Bs was available, my choice was not to use it because the > > work was more valuable than the 3-4 minutes to assess the situation > > and to try a few ways to recover it. > > > Having that choice was good though, wasn't it? In the same way you > hadn't copied your keys to another machine, you maybe hadn't added the > new zap option to xorg.conf, so you no longer have that option. Having the choice didn't make a blind bit of difference in this instance as I was determined to keep the work. If I in F11 want Zap capabilities, I can enable it. I'll probably leave it unmapped, so I am encouraged to file defects against misbehaving applications instead. > And I don't think a new user would be expected to type blind in a > console... so they would have had to hit the reboot button, or the > shutdown button if they don't have a reboot button. Either way, they'd lose the content of their session. If X really is scrogged, hitting the power-button for a controlled shutdown so that the hardware is reset to sane state is not a bad idea *for the new users with limited skills*. If you are savvy enough to know about Zap, you're savvy enough to switch it on, just like with SysRq's. > For me my desktop has as many important services running as I have > apps -- so restarting X is not as costly as restarting the machine. I'm glad for you, that you have an X-session so lightweight that you can Zap it without losing any work. I long for the days when I had so little to do on my desktop that I could make such a statement. ;) -- /Anders -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
