* Rodd Clarkson <rodd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [20090331 03:56]: > On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 10:55 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: [snip] > > I don't think it is appropriate content for release notes since it isn't > > useful to lead users to read a few threads with hundreds of mails in > > that context. Fedora release notes is not Fedora Weekly News. > > I'm not suggesting that you put all these threads into the release > notes, just a url so that hopefully people will read the discussion > already had (and then hopefully avoid having the same fruitless > convesation again). You have an excessive amount of faith in people. This discussion will be had again (and again), probably by mostly the same people, once it's rolled out in a release. Same arguments, same flames, possibly a different list. I have read this thread with much merriment, seeing hilarious accusations of conspiracy by closet Emacs users (as if Vim users would be any better *grin*, tinfoil? first door on the left), shouting from the roof-tops by a real minority (albeit vocal such) etc etc ad nauseum as well as more and more far-fetched and ludicrous analogies being put forth. (I did laugh at the shatterproof glass one..) I don't think this is necessarily a good poster-child discussion to stick in the release-notes without a healthy dose of soap+water to clean it up first. "We resist change" somehow don't seem to quite match the Fedora that I've come to know. C-A-Bs is a known key combination, it may occasionaly help in a sticky situation (not getting covered in syrup in the first place would help too) but it may also cause people to lose a session and unsaved work. SysRq's are disabled by default for good reason, and so should C-A-Bs be, where savvy admins that need the functionality ought to be capable of enabling it *should the need arise*. (They do *test* things before they roll them out company wide, right?) Personally, I've seen some interesting technical bits in this thread, that you now - thanks to the autoconfiguration of X - can drop in snippets of xorg.conf (can sysadmins spell "puppet" please?) to enable/disable very selected bits. It's also a long long time since I personally had to use C-A-Bs out of anything but lazyness. A wedged X usually means either a flip to a vc (Thunar in F10 updates-testing seems to do this recently, and no, I've not filed a BZ - yet) to nuke the offending process or a hard reboot since keyboard interrupt left the building. Right.. I'm late for work and I'll get off my soapbox now. -- /Anders -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
