On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 12:09 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 09:54 -0500, Jon Masters wrote: > > > > It would be nice to have everyone who works on Rawhide, work *from* > > > Rawhide. I suspect this would make people generally less keen to break > > > stuff. =) > > > > That's precisely why it's not practical to use Rawhide as a day-to-day > > platform. I know others will disagree and that's fine, but I long since > > switched back to a stable Fedora 9/10 setup. It's tough enough ever > > getting a rawhide that will install, let alone not break randomly. > > Chicken and egg situation. Someone has to take the leap. Sure. I'll let someone who's not using a VPN, email, or anything involving passwords and tokens they care about do that. Meanwhile, I'll use something that's got signed packages for my daily stuff. > Eventually, > once enough developers are on Rawhide, there'll be a culture where > people generally don't break things too egregiously, and are immediately > complained-at if they do, workarounds become known, fixes are made > quickly. But anyhoo, I have more developed thoughts along these lines > coming in future. I go through phases of thinking this, but then I wonder how that gels with having the ability to be the playground of the latest and greatest technology, which is when I realize that the two are incompatible. > > KVM is great at letting one poke safely at stuff. > > Sure, but nothing beats hardware. =) I disagree. Only time that even makes a difference is if you're using some specific gadget you can't pass through, or actually have some specific hardware you need to test - granted, actual testing should happen outside of VMs, but for much of userland stuff, it makes absolutely no difference. Even sound passthrough works now :P Jon. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
