Re: DVD (video) and Fedora

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Martin Sourada wrote:

Yes bundling gstreamer with Firefox would be nuts. But bundling
liboggplay isn't a perfectly good thing either. You should rely on what
the host platforms offers (though it's usually easier to do such thing
on *nix platforms...)

The host platform offers no support for open video. So the choice is either nothing or bundling it or fragmented supported. Firefox chose to bundle support natively.

No, they won't be. They're using whatever framework there is on mac and
they'll be using whatever framework is default on windows. It's no
different from video intended from download - you rely on the customer
to install the needed codecs himself.

Then there is no added advantage. If the users have to download codecs, they might as well as download the Flash plugin.

If you have less to offer than concurrence you have much worse starting
position. We should rather focus our efforts on improving FLOSS
codecs/formats (which is good that there are people actually working on
it; and fighting against software patents) so that it would not be a
step back (in terms of quality/features/compression) to switch from say
h264 to dirac. M

It will very likely, always be that way. Multimedia is patent hell. While we can try and do all of the above as we always have, having Firefox support it natively is a *big* difference .

atroska, ogg, vorbis and flac are doing pretty well, but
we still don't have a competing video codec(s). Also the support of
patent encumbered but open sourced codecs (like x264) is even better
than for the FLOSS ones on linux - as someone already said, try to play
e.g. mkv with theora in xine...

This is just a obscure bug that needs to be fixed. It just hasn't been a issue because theora is only used with Ogg as a container in practise. Report it and get it fixed neverthless.

I fear that the only-ogg format and FLOSS codecs support in firefox will
be rather a chance for other browsers to stand a fighting chance with
firefox than a chance for theora...

Sure. I understand you don't particularly like Firefox and prefer WebKit but it isn't good to turn a blind eye to the problem that there is no good and compact cross platform multimedia framework that any application can rely on yet.

Rahul

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