On Thursday, 05 February 2009 at 12:27, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 00:17 -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > You could put Theora (+Vorbis) in MKV, in theory, and I think people > > have done it before, but I know it doesn't work right in many (most? > > virtually all?) mkv supporting apps. I'd say that would be something > > worth fixing, since there are a lot of complex features in MKV that no > > one has done for Ogg (like menus) except that I could still never > > recommend mkv files to people, since free codecs in MKV pretty much > > only theoretically possible (like non-free codecs in Ogg are > > theoretically possible, but not something you're likely to find). For > > Fedora we wouldn't want to recommend MKV for users simply because > > there is a 99.9999% chance of any random mkv file not working for > > them. That's wrong. If Theora+Vorbis-in-Matroska isn't working with some demuxer then that demuxer should be fixed. Have you reported your problematic files to upstream developers? > Most apps/libraries have the container demuxer tightly coupled to the > codec engine. The only exception to that is gstreamer, so only > gstreamer-based apps are capable of playing such a file. Let's see... FFmpeg: separate (libavformat and libavcodec) GStreamer: separate MPlayer: FFmpeg linked in statically (due to abuse of internal interfaces) Xine: separate Is there anything else? So I'd say the majority is decoupled. Regards, R. -- Fedora http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rathann RPMFusion http://rpmfusion.org | MPlayer http://mplayerhq.hu "Faith manages." -- Delenn to Lennier in Babylon 5:"Confessions and Lamentations" -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list