On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > > Taking co-maintainship or even the package doesn't solve 'em all, as I > > pointed out above already. If the "Red Hat guy" is upstream of software, > > it's more hard to work around. > > Why's that? I don't understand. Now you're attacking the upstream > maintainers too? Maybe next time, when I write another huge e-mail like in December 2008 ;-) What I want to say is, that if somebody is upstream or one of the upstream maintainers, he/she/it/they is/are the best knowing people of that piece of software. If he/she/it/they is/are downstream as well, I see this usually as a benefit. If upstream is then less responsive (e.g. as at ethtool), it is hard to do a good job as co-maintainer as well. > I'm smart enough to not need training. I can train myself. The question is, > should I learn RPM? I don't think so. My time is better spent doing upstream > work. As I've been saying repeatedly, RPM is not my (and many "RH guys"') > strength, and I'm honest about it. I know how to update my packages to the > new version of the upstream package I just released. And I hope you don't > have any problem with that. For anything more complicated, I'd be happy to > let more experienced Fedora packages jump in. Such collaboration has happened > between me and Nicolas Mailhot already. He oversees font packaging, and I fix > upstream issues he wants to see fixed. That's constructive IMO. If you don't want to enhance your packaging skills around RPM, you simply must not be a package maintainer. Go and orphan your packages, if you want to focus just on upstream. Either do good work up- and downstream or just do good work downstream or just good work upstream. But doing good work only upstream and less good work downstream is inacceptable - and as well indiscutable. Period. Greetings, Robert -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list