On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 00:00 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > It appears, most maintainers only have been ignoring the description > > fields or not filling them properly because of lack of documentation or > > awareness on how it is being used. > > Some of the replies in these threads don't quite suggest that. People > complain about the "bureaucracy" of being "forced" to write such stuff, > which pretty much shows they intentionally do not want to fill in those > fields and won't do it if they can get away without it. If you assume good faith, you might interpret people's opinions as: - This doesn't help users, they just blindly apply updates anyway - Users who do read the update description have the ability to go read the upstream changelog themselves - This will be a lot of manual work for maintainers - This could be done automatically - This is just yet another attempt by misguided people to turn Fedora into a bureaucratic minefield I don't fully agree with any of those points, but I can understand where they come from. You won't change those opinions with a set of "you MUST do foo" rules. This is not a technical matter which you can come up with a black and white policy for. We need package maintainers who exercise their own good judgement and the flip-side of that is we must *allow* maintainers to exercise their own judgement. Each of the sections in the draft: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Markmc/Draft_package_update_guidelines begin with a "user's perspective". If package maintainers take that perspective on board and read the suggestions that follow, I think we'll end up with a better situation than we're in now without permanently alienating anyone in the process. Cheers, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list