Jack Tanner (ihok@xxxxxxxxxxx) said: > > How is positing a change in underlying, not-user-visible-at-all, system > > infrastructure to a user's forum a worthwhile endeavor? After all, the > > change to set sound device permissions from HAL was done years ago. > > It's still visible to this user. If the permissions aren't set properly for the logged-in user, that's a *bug*, not a user-visible change that says something about the underlying details. > Even though sound device permissions are set > through HAL *by default*, pam_console is still a perfectly serviceable > alternative. Only in the sense that you now have two disparate systems trying to control access to the same devices. That will never work well, and it's best to eliminate any confusion. Bill -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list