On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 00:00 -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > You have to crawl inside the heads of the people whose minds you are > looking to change, and think like them. I thought we can get away from silly politics in a technically oriented list. Look Jeff, you are right that there were snide comments on each side. But the pro-change people produced pretty good arguments for change: 1. both Windows and MacOS (between them they cover something like 95% of computer users) use browser mode. These companies have done extensive UI studies which we can't afford. 2. like it or not, (1) + the Principle of least surprise it follows that we shouldn't change from expected behavior lightly. 3. all other major Linux distros (Ubuntu & Suse) use spacial, so what kind of meaning is there left in "upstream"? 4. the change was initially pushed without any consideration to people preferences & expected behavior. If held to the same standards, it should have never been implemented. 5. Google for "Ubuntu change nautilus to spatial mode" vs. "Fedora change nautilus to browser mode". In the first case, you get about 3500 hits (mostly of people _complaining_ about spatial mode), whereas in the second case you get over 10000 hits for people trying to change to browser mode, complaining about spatial, or trying to vote for change. Where there _any_ decent arguments for spatial? No, other than a few people saying they like it, and plenty of suggestions for going on wild goose chases. Thanks, but no thanks. If the community can not have input even in clear-cut scenarios like this one, you have to understand that people will feel frustrated and disappointed. Sad. -- Dimi Paun <dimi@xxxxxxxxxxx> Lattica, Inc. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list