On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 07:29 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > Maybe an example of an update you consider irresponsible? Lets pick up some mysteries: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-10242 homebank-3.8-1.fc8 -> homebank-4.0-1.fc8 Nothing listed in the bodhi update to give users any indication as to what the update brings, no bugfix information, no new feature information to verify functionality. Not even rpm changelog. (although in this case, the rpm changelog is "- 4.0". How are users supposed to consume this and provide appropriate feedback? Why was a major version bump necessary at this very late stage of Fedora 8's lifespan? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-9959 texmaker-1.7.1-1.fc8 -> texmaker-1.8-1.fc8 Only details in bodhi is "New upstream release". Only rpm changelog is "- New Release" This appears to have been spammed from F8+ all at the same time. Same story as above. As with above, 0 feedback in bodhi and a relatively short period in updates-testing before the maintainer pushed it on over to -stable. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-10246 More of the same. No bodhi information, no changelog information beyond "version upgrade", a single day between the update hitting -testing and the maintainer requesting it go -stable. 0 feedback in bodhi. Again spammed across the release board. Why? I could go on and on with these mysteries, which could be sane updates, but who knows!? Certainly not the consumer. For more dangerous updates I'd have to start prowling forum histories and the like to find updates that were pushed that caused real problems. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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