On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Stephen Warren <s-t-rhbugzilla@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Stephen Warren >> <s-t-rhbugzilla@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Kevin Kofler wrote: >>>> Jesse Keating wrote: >>>>> Seriously, if we could actually just focus on bugfixing for our released >>>>> trees, do the new package work in rawhide (and bugfixing of the new >>>>> packages there), our released trees might actually stabilize outside of >>>>> the heavy handed forced freezes during development. >>>> But often it's impossible to fix some bugs without a version upgrade. For >>>> example, the upgrade to KDE 4.1 in F9 fixed many bugs in 4.0. >>> >>> That's an argument for not having introduced the alpha/beta-quality >>> release KDE 4.0 into Fedora in the first place. >> >> And that's an arguement for turning Fedora into something useless. > > What, usable software is useless? You can't possibly argue that KDE 4.0 > was a good choice given the need to replace it with 4.1 so quickly. First of all, these kind of discussions piss me off a bit, so if I fail to be clear on something let me know and I will try to reexplain. I never send usable software is useless. I said changing Fedora in that way would make Fedora useless. There would be no meaningful differentiation between Fedora and other popular distros, and that would render it entirely useless to the myself, and I would argue, the Linux community. I see very little between what is being suggesting and making Fedora "like Ubuntu". The community already has a "like Ubuntu". Yes, I can possible argue that KDE 4.0 was a good choice. The fact that it was updated to 4.1 as soon as possible should in no way be a negative. I use Fedora to have the latest software possible as soon as possible. If I wanted shrink wrapped and slow, there are other distros for that. Tell me this, after all your changes have been made to Fedora, what would make it different and uniquely useful? Having "usable" software, doesn't make it uniquely useful. -- Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
