Kamil Paral píše v St 20. 02. 2019 v 15:22 +0100: > On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 2:41 PM Bastien Nocera <bnocera@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > GNOME Videos will still be available, from here: > > https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnome.Totem > > with all the bells and whistles. > > > > I think that, out-of-the-box, clicking on "Install" on this website > > will lead > > to a better experience than 1) finding out about third-party RPM > > repositories > > 2) enabling said repositories 3) triggering the codecs to be > > installed, including > > the aforementioned PackageKit-gstreamer helper bugs > > That's probably true. And users who already know about this can do it > already. But without desktop integration, it's unlikely we can get > this message through to most of our users. Of course, spreading this > information doesn't mean the default player needs to get removed. The > player can be there, "half-functional", and we can do our best to > inform our users how to improve the state (even if that means > removing the pre-installed one and installing its Flathub version, > that's just one extra step compared to your guide). > > (Whether we can spread this information or not, link to Flathub with > apps containing patented codecs, etc, is something that people with > legal background should probably decide, I have no idea.) > > But, one important thing should be considered. Many of those people > who install patented codecs into Fedora will need to enable the > system repositories anyway, Flathub's Totem or VLC will not be > enough. And that's because web is the king now, and web browsers need > those codecs to play most of the web's video content (except > YouTube). Except Chrome, which is popular, but probably not something > we want to encourage. > > So I think a large number of users will need to find third-party > codecs anyway (which "fixes" many apps including Totem), and asking > them to install Totem from Flathub doesn't change the picture that > much. This is a good point. I'd say that these days people watch videos more in a browser than in a desktop player and installing anything from Flathub is currently not going to help them in any way. Firefox and Chromium rely on libavcodec in the system. No matter if Totem is included or installed from Flathub, nothing changes for them: Wanna play videos? Go and enable that 3rd party repo and install ffmpeg. And once that repo is enabled, Software can AFAIK install required GStreamer plugins in a few clicks. I also wonder whether we should continue in our efforts to include as many video codecs as legally possible (adding support for H.264 playback etc.). What would the consumer of it? Totem would be gone and browsers use libavcodec. Jiri _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
