On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, > > On 28-04-18 00:45, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> Yeah I'm totally lost on this, not least of which is I'm not >> experiencing the behavior reported in the bug or the release notes. >> The application referenced in the release notes is not installed by >> default. And the application once installed doesn't have the options >> in it that the release notes says it should have. > > > So there are 2 possible explanations for why you are / your laptop is > not affected by this: > > 1) You've once upon a time changed the setting in gnome-tweak-tool, > so it is no longer at its "default" value (which now changed) but > pinned to the value you've chosen I had to install Tweaks so since the last clean install, the default was not changed by me. > > 2) Linux does not properly recognize your touchpad as a touchpad > so it is running in mouse emulation, since you also wrote: No idea whether it's in mouse emulation or how to determine if it is. $ dmesg | grep -i synap [ 1.527140] psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried max coordinates: x [..5690], y [..4772] [ 1.556655] psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried min coordinates: x [1250..], y [1084..] [ 1.556660] psmouse serio1: synaptics: Your touchpad (PNP: SYN3217 SYN1e00 SYN0002 PNP0f13) says it can support a different bus. If i2c-hid and hid-rmi are not used, you might want to try setting psmouse.synaptics_intertouch to 1 and report this to linux-input@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. [ 1.614463] psmouse serio1: synaptics: Touchpad model: 1, fw: 8.2, id: 0x1e2b1, caps: 0xf00123/0x840300/0x12e800/0x400000, board id: 3214, fw id: 2407757 [ 1.651393] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input5 [chris@f28h ~]$ > >> (And off topic but I do *not* like that very prominent HURT ME BUTTON, >> labeled "Touchpad" with an on/off slider. Turning it off is for real >> and easy. Turning it back on again? Hahaha, figure it out yourself!) > > 2) seems unlikely, because in mouse-emulation mode that button > would not hurt you. Note there is a good rationale for having that > button, some people seriously like touchpads only use the trackstick > or always carry an actual mouse with them. Tried it, it does in fact turn off the touchpad entirely, and it took me a while to figure out how to turn it back on. We have an auto-revert timeout when making certain video changes that might result in the computer becoming unusable. > FWIW I personally I'm not in favor of the change of the default from > the tried and trusted PC / windows standard button-areas behavior to > the mac click-finger behavior. I've stated as much in the GNOME bug about > this. I'm fairly confused by the terminology and I'll split the blame for that on Synaptics, Apple, Microsoft and my (mal)adaptive behavior: after all I did finally say "fuck it" and reprogrammed myself to tolerate natural scrolling because I got sick of changing the setting everywhere. --- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx