Re: REMINDER: What's New in F28 Workstation - Fedora Magazine article

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On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 28-04-18 00:45, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>> Yeah I'm totally lost on this, not least of which is I'm not
>> experiencing the behavior reported in the bug or the release notes.
>> The application referenced in the release notes is not installed by
>> default. And the application once installed doesn't have the options
>> in it that the release notes says it should have.
>
>
> So there are 2 possible explanations for why you are / your laptop is
> not affected by this:
>
> 1) You've once upon a time changed the setting in gnome-tweak-tool,
> so it is no longer at its "default" value (which now changed) but
> pinned to the value you've chosen

I had to install Tweaks so since the last clean install, the default
was not changed by me.
>
> 2) Linux does not properly recognize your touchpad as a touchpad
> so it is running in mouse emulation, since you also wrote:


No idea whether it's in mouse emulation or how to determine if it is.

$ dmesg | grep -i synap
[    1.527140] psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried max coordinates: x
[..5690], y [..4772]
[    1.556655] psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried min coordinates: x
[1250..], y [1084..]
[    1.556660] psmouse serio1: synaptics: Your touchpad (PNP: SYN3217
SYN1e00 SYN0002 PNP0f13) says it can support a different bus. If
i2c-hid and hid-rmi are not used, you might want to try setting
psmouse.synaptics_intertouch to 1 and report this to
linux-input@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
[    1.614463] psmouse serio1: synaptics: Touchpad model: 1, fw: 8.2,
id: 0x1e2b1, caps: 0xf00123/0x840300/0x12e800/0x400000, board id:
3214, fw id: 2407757
[    1.651393] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as
/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input5
[chris@f28h ~]$



>
>> (And off topic but I do *not* like that very prominent HURT ME BUTTON,
>> labeled "Touchpad" with an on/off slider. Turning it off is for real
>> and easy. Turning it back on again? Hahaha, figure it out yourself!)
>
> 2) seems unlikely, because in mouse-emulation mode that button
> would not hurt you. Note there is a good rationale for having that
> button, some people seriously like touchpads only use the trackstick
> or always carry an actual mouse with them.

Tried it, it does in fact turn off the touchpad entirely, and it took
me a while to figure out how to turn it back on.

We have an auto-revert timeout when making certain video changes that
might result in the computer becoming unusable.

> FWIW I personally I'm not in favor of the change of the default from
> the tried and trusted PC / windows standard button-areas behavior to
> the mac click-finger behavior. I've stated as much in the GNOME bug about
> this.

I'm fairly confused by the terminology and I'll split the blame for
that on Synaptics, Apple, Microsoft and my (mal)adaptive behavior:
after all I did finally say "fuck it" and reprogrammed myself to
tolerate natural scrolling because I got sick of changing the setting
everywhere.


---
Chris Murphy
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