On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 03:52:25PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 28-04-18 00:45, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > >> Yeah I'm totally lost on this, not least of which is I'm not > >> experiencing the behavior reported in the bug or the release notes. > >> The application referenced in the release notes is not installed by > >> default. And the application once installed doesn't have the options > >> in it that the release notes says it should have. > > > > > > So there are 2 possible explanations for why you are / your laptop is > > not affected by this: > > > > 1) You've once upon a time changed the setting in gnome-tweak-tool, > > so it is no longer at its "default" value (which now changed) but > > pinned to the value you've chosen > > I had to install Tweaks so since the last clean install, the default > was not changed by me. you may have changed it via gsettings directly (see my other email) > > 2) Linux does not properly recognize your touchpad as a touchpad > > so it is running in mouse emulation, since you also wrote: > > > No idea whether it's in mouse emulation or how to determine if it is. > > $ dmesg | grep -i synap > [ 1.527140] psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried max coordinates: x > [..5690], y [..4772] > [ 1.556655] psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried min coordinates: x > [1250..], y [1084..] > [ 1.556660] psmouse serio1: synaptics: Your touchpad (PNP: SYN3217 > SYN1e00 SYN0002 PNP0f13) says it can support a different bus. If > i2c-hid and hid-rmi are not used, you might want to try setting > psmouse.synaptics_intertouch to 1 and report this to > linux-input@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. > [ 1.614463] psmouse serio1: synaptics: Touchpad model: 1, fw: 8.2, > id: 0x1e2b1, caps: 0xf00123/0x840300/0x12e800/0x400000, board id: > 3214, fw id: 2407757 > [ 1.651393] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as > /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input5 > [chris@f28h ~]$ it's not in mouse emulation, otherwise you'd see a PS/2 Wheel Mouse device. fwiw, googling for the PNP ids suggests you have HP Spectre, and looking at the pictures of the current model indicates you have a clickpad. > >> (And off topic but I do *not* like that very prominent HURT ME BUTTON, > >> labeled "Touchpad" with an on/off slider. Turning it off is for real > >> and easy. Turning it back on again? Hahaha, figure it out yourself!) > > > > 2) seems unlikely, because in mouse-emulation mode that button > > would not hurt you. Note there is a good rationale for having that > > button, some people seriously like touchpads only use the trackstick > > or always carry an actual mouse with them. > > Tried it, it does in fact turn off the touchpad entirely, and it took > me a while to figure out how to turn it back on. > > We have an auto-revert timeout when making certain video changes that > might result in the computer becoming unusable. There's a similar-ish bug for a touch input toggle open here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/issues/29 IMO the most appropriate course would be for GNOME to be aware of available pointer devices and re-enable the touchpad automatically when all other pointer devices disappear. Doable but there are a few tricky details, in addition to the whole issue of "someone needs to actually write that code". Cheers, Peter > > FWIW I personally I'm not in favor of the change of the default from > > the tried and trusted PC / windows standard button-areas behavior to > > the mac click-finger behavior. I've stated as much in the GNOME bug about > > this. > > I'm fairly confused by the terminology and I'll split the blame for > that on Synaptics, Apple, Microsoft and my (mal)adaptive behavior: > after all I did finally say "fuck it" and reprogrammed myself to > tolerate natural scrolling because I got sick of changing the setting > everywhere. > > > --- > Chris Murphy > _______________________________________________ > desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
