On Sun, Jan 28, 2018, at 4:23 PM, Owen Taylor wrote: > Hi desktop-list and others, > > There was a lot of interest around Atomic Workstation at DevConf.cz - there > were three talks specifically about Atomic Workstation (*), in addition to > quite a few related talks. > > We should try to catch some of this momentum and figure out how to move the > project forward. My thought is that it would be useful to set up a regular > IRC meeting, probably every two weeks - more or less an Atomic Workstation > SIG. I'll likely join this meeting most of the time, but I'm not sure I can commit to being part of the SIG officially - anyways @jlebon knows the ostree/rpm-ostree side well. I think it'd be best if I keep my focus on Atomic Host primarily as well as handling the IoT/embedded cases. But obviously I use this today and am quite invested in seeing it succeed; I'll be fixing bugs regardless ;) > Sanja Bonic and Colin Walters - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4IPWlfkJSo Also: Jan Pazdziora: Minimizing workstation installation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWoFpOoA-tE And I'd really recommend that anyone interested in all of this to try investing in containerizing their desktop *first*. I know a ton of people are interested in the transaction updates from rpm-ostree; and yes it's awesome, but in itself it's a huge change. Let me put it this way; sure, you can: `rpm-ostree install fedpkg gcc-c++ golang cargo`. But you're not doing "Atomic Workstation" then. (And yes, I really do use fedpkg from a container, it mostly works because the lack of user namespaces means fedpkg build picks up kerberos from my host's uid) Also of course, you can `oc cluster up` on yum-managed hosts just as easily. And if OpenShift fits your use case, do that *first* too. > Kalev Lember - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc7lvkl5atE > Jonathan Lebon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c3GdfhWzcc Also Colin Walters: Hybrid image/package OS updates with rpm-ostree - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWoFpOoA-tE (And after watching this a bit I think you can skip to ~6:47 or so if you want to get to the point more quickly) Let me say again just to emphasize; try containerizing your desktop first! _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx