Re: Workstation WG meeting recap 2017-12-18

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On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Adam Williamson
<adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 12:21 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Adam Williamson
>> <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 09:01 -0600, mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> > > * Remove setroubleshoot  (mcatanzaro, 14:29:45)
>> > >   * AGREED: Remove setroubleshoot from default Workstation install,
>> > >     without replacement.  (mcatanzaro, 14:44:46)
>> >
>> > 14:49:54 <mcatanzaro> We'll see how it works out... fortunately, errors
>> > are quite rare nowadays.
>> >
>> > A rather large part of the reason why errors are rare is that they are
>> > found, reported and fixed by pre-release testers. Removing
>> > setroubleshoot from the default desktop install *at a stroke* makes it
>> > vastly less likely that pre-release testers will do this. I'm not super
>> > happy with this call.
>> >
>> > It seems rather baffling, honestly - it almost seems like you voted in
>> > favour of getting worse bug reports. Yes, maybe problems will still be
>> > reported, but you'll get reports against *your* components like "app
>> > doesn't start" or "app can't open file for some reason" rather than a
>> > report against selinux-policy that is a precisely targeted description
>> > of an selinux denial and, 90% of the time, will be *read and fixed by
>> > someone else without you ever having to see it*. Do you all really love
>> > doing triage work, or something?
>>
>>
>> I agree. But an improvement would be for abrt gui to be able to report
>> AVC denials directly to bugzilla, filed against selinux policy.
>
> This is exactly what setroubleshoot *does*. I agree it'd be nice for
> them just to be one app with a decent interface, but we work with what
> we've got, not with wishes...


I don't see any UI in SELinux Troubleshooter to file a bug report. The
Notify Admin button presents two options: Unix Mailspool (Movemail)
and Newgroup account. Both of those sound Mesozoic, but as they have
no meaning to me I could be wrong about their era.

-- 
Chris Murphy
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