On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 12:21 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Adam Williamson > <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 09:01 -0600, mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > * Remove setroubleshoot (mcatanzaro, 14:29:45) > > > * AGREED: Remove setroubleshoot from default Workstation install, > > > without replacement. (mcatanzaro, 14:44:46) > > > > 14:49:54 <mcatanzaro> We'll see how it works out... fortunately, errors > > are quite rare nowadays. > > > > A rather large part of the reason why errors are rare is that they are > > found, reported and fixed by pre-release testers. Removing > > setroubleshoot from the default desktop install *at a stroke* makes it > > vastly less likely that pre-release testers will do this. I'm not super > > happy with this call. > > > > It seems rather baffling, honestly - it almost seems like you voted in > > favour of getting worse bug reports. Yes, maybe problems will still be > > reported, but you'll get reports against *your* components like "app > > doesn't start" or "app can't open file for some reason" rather than a > > report against selinux-policy that is a precisely targeted description > > of an selinux denial and, 90% of the time, will be *read and fixed by > > someone else without you ever having to see it*. Do you all really love > > doing triage work, or something? > > > I agree. But an improvement would be for abrt gui to be able to report > AVC denials directly to bugzilla, filed against selinux policy. This is exactly what setroubleshoot *does*. I agree it'd be nice for them just to be one app with a decent interface, but we work with what we've got, not with wishes... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx