Re: Workstation WG meeting recap 2017-12-18

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On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Adam Williamson
<adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 09:01 -0600, mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> * Remove setroubleshoot  (mcatanzaro, 14:29:45)
>>   * AGREED: Remove setroubleshoot from default Workstation install,
>>     without replacement.  (mcatanzaro, 14:44:46)
>
> 14:49:54 <mcatanzaro> We'll see how it works out... fortunately, errors
> are quite rare nowadays.
>
> A rather large part of the reason why errors are rare is that they are
> found, reported and fixed by pre-release testers. Removing
> setroubleshoot from the default desktop install *at a stroke* makes it
> vastly less likely that pre-release testers will do this. I'm not super
> happy with this call.
>
> It seems rather baffling, honestly - it almost seems like you voted in
> favour of getting worse bug reports. Yes, maybe problems will still be
> reported, but you'll get reports against *your* components like "app
> doesn't start" or "app can't open file for some reason" rather than a
> report against selinux-policy that is a precisely targeted description
> of an selinux denial and, 90% of the time, will be *read and fixed by
> someone else without you ever having to see it*. Do you all really love
> doing triage work, or something?


I agree. But an improvement would be for abrt gui to be able to report
AVC denials directly to bugzilla, filed against selinux policy.

-- 
Chris Murphy
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