On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 1:11 AM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > "Time and Date" > > It is important to get the timezone setup correctly *before* > running the phase of anaconda where it formats filesystems > and copies files. Otherwise various tools may complain about > timestamps in the future for files created during install > time when the timezone is later changed in such a way > that the (timezone-adjusted) time becomes earlier. > > We've had several bugs related to this in the past and > actually have moved timezone configuration up to an earlier > point in the installer because of this. > > IOW this really must happen inside the installer. The filesystem (kernel code and user space tools) needs to tolerate the inevitability of time/date discrepancies. It can complain loudly when there's confusion, that's fine, but it can't faceplant. I've lost track of some of those bugs so I don't recall the specifics. But clearly computers can have a clock battery die, or even some hardware has no clock battery, and the idea such a system now can't boot, or will behave weirdly is not OK, that's a bug. Meanwhile over on Windows and macOS since time long ago, the installer environment doesn't have a way to set time or timezone. Those installers may have a time check and tolerance, I'd sooner expect a complaint about invalid signing certificate since the payload/packages are signed. Both OS's do time/date and timezone configuration post-install. Anyway, point is, I don't accept the assumption that the user must be troubled by this during OS installation. The installer could ensure hwclock time is the same or after install media's superblock time, and change it if it's not, and avoid bothering the user with this at this stage where a lot of hardware does not and will not have an internet connection for setting the time exactly anyway. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
