Re: User's Feedback

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On May 3, 2017, at 00:34, Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 2017-05-02 at 20:59 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
>> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:59 PM, Adam Williamson 
>> <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> This would be a major problem for the release validation process. We
>>> need to be able to track the *downstream* status of release blocking
>>> fixes. An upstream bug is not a good way to do this.
>> 
>> Probably the best solution is not to actually forbid filing bugs, but 
>> to have a bot that adds a comment that the bug is unlikely to be 
>> reviewed on Red Hat Bugzilla and instructing the user as to how to 
>> report the bug upstream. Then we can just ignore that comment when we 
>> need a bug for release validation purposes etc.
> 
> OK. And to be honest, this isn't limited to release validation and
> blocker bugs. What generally happens when an RHBZ report gets kicked
> upstream is the bug gets fixed...upstream. Often it only gets fixed on
> git master, which means it will likely *never* get fixed in the Fedora
> release it was actually filed against. If we're lucky the fix might
> also be committed to the most recent stable branch, which is probably
> the GNOME in the most recent Fedora release, so if there's ever another
> point release on that branch (often there aren't any after .2), the fix
> might *eventually* make its way back to the most recent Fedora release.
> But if we're at .2, or the bug was filed on the previous stable Fedora
> release, the fix may well never actually make it back to the Fedora
> release the reporter is running without someone taking ownership and
> bugging people to commit to different branches, do point releases, and
> ship updates to Fedora.

Other than more point releases and more branches, what's really the solution? I only see three real options: we convince upstream to do more point releases; we 'fork' it and do our own point releases, regardless of upstream; or we just bite the bullet and always ship latest Gnome, even if that means bumping major versions. 

Is there a fourth option to you, Adam? Other than the status quo I mean. 
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