On May 3, 2017, at 00:34, Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Tue, 2017-05-02 at 20:59 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:59 PM, Adam Williamson >> <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> This would be a major problem for the release validation process. We >>> need to be able to track the *downstream* status of release blocking >>> fixes. An upstream bug is not a good way to do this. >> >> Probably the best solution is not to actually forbid filing bugs, but >> to have a bot that adds a comment that the bug is unlikely to be >> reviewed on Red Hat Bugzilla and instructing the user as to how to >> report the bug upstream. Then we can just ignore that comment when we >> need a bug for release validation purposes etc. > > OK. And to be honest, this isn't limited to release validation and > blocker bugs. What generally happens when an RHBZ report gets kicked > upstream is the bug gets fixed...upstream. Often it only gets fixed on > git master, which means it will likely *never* get fixed in the Fedora > release it was actually filed against. If we're lucky the fix might > also be committed to the most recent stable branch, which is probably > the GNOME in the most recent Fedora release, so if there's ever another > point release on that branch (often there aren't any after .2), the fix > might *eventually* make its way back to the most recent Fedora release. > But if we're at .2, or the bug was filed on the previous stable Fedora > release, the fix may well never actually make it back to the Fedora > release the reporter is running without someone taking ownership and > bugging people to commit to different branches, do point releases, and > ship updates to Fedora. Other than more point releases and more branches, what's really the solution? I only see three real options: we convince upstream to do more point releases; we 'fork' it and do our own point releases, regardless of upstream; or we just bite the bullet and always ship latest Gnome, even if that means bumping major versions. Is there a fourth option to you, Adam? Other than the status quo I mean. _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx