----- Original Message ----- > Hi Bastien, > You seem to be coming at this discussion with the positive attitude of Donald > Trump :) I find that highly offensive, smiley or not. > I don't think Matthew, myself or anyone else is especially tied to specific > branding items > that we currently have, what everyone cares about is the overall branding and > how it plays into our marketing of Fedora to new users. So instead of > grumpily shouting 'ok, so > lets just remove that then' try to listen and understand where people are > coming from and > then lets find an overall approach here that actually solves our needs. And > maybe very > little of the current branding survives such a setup, but lets look at the > overall picture > instead of doing what we have ended up doing the last 4 years, which is go > into the trenches > and then end up adding random branding to try to avoid thinking about the > actual goals of > the request. Which is exactly what I'm doing. Neither GNOME upstream, nor GNOME designers and developers in Fedora were given the opportunity to make holistic design decisions with regards to branding. And I don't like that "grumpy" label either. I care about what the products I work on look and act, and I'm disconcerted, and bemused when non-GNOME Fedora participants act as if we don't have a foot in both teams. > And the good thing here is that a lot of the upstream GNOME designers are > working for Red Hat, > so I am sure that as part of their job they will be able to find acceptable > solutions for > both sides. Which is what I'm currently working on with them. Switch to upstream theme for Plymouth: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392836 Spinner theme update: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98640 Details panel changes: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=770593 and https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695691 Hostname changes as branding: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392924 (avahi) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392925 (systemd for hostnamed) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392926 (anaconda) We still have to work on the presentation mode, which would be a much better way to advertise Fedora during presentations (!), and discuss what to do with those other cases of downstream branding. _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
