Re: coredumpctl integration for F25

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Bastien, do I get it right you want to ditch ABRT and teach systemd to
detect Python, Ruby, Java, Node.js exceptions?


On 10/11/2016 03:16 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> On Wed, 13.04.16 08:44, Bastien Nocera (bnocera@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote:
>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 10:49 PM, Michael Catanzaro
>>>> <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Second, my understanding is
>>>>> that the ABRT developers prefer to improve abrt-cli and tell people to
>>>>> use that rather than coredumpctl.
>>>>
>>>> Any particular reason for that preference? As coredumpctl gets more
>>>> and more widespread, having the same tool as other distros should make
>>>> Fedora more approachable which I think is a good thing?
>>>
>>> The upstream systemd developers I talked to weren't interested in adapting
>>> coredumpctl to be usable for use cases other than for developers.
>>
>> What precisely do you need?
> 
> I asked, through private mail, and after we discussed this face-to-face:
> "
> Could you please send me a piece of code that would:
> - monitor the journal for new coredumps
> - gather information about the crashed binary (abrt collects things
>   like envvars and more that allows us to determine which application or
>   component crashed, whether it's packaged or not, etc.)
> - gather information about kernel oopses/lockdep warnings
> - store additional metadata about the report, if journald can support
>   that (whether it was reported and where for example)
> "
> 
>>> It doesn't claim to be usable for end-users reporting bugs, and the
>>> original
>>> developers have no interest in making changes that would allow that.
>>
>> I indeed think coredumpctl should probably be something for more
>> professional users. But I'd be curious what you are missing in
>> coredumpctl.
> 
> Some help implementing one of:
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82507
> So that we can eventually move that down a level from ABRT.
> 
> To be fair, I misrepresented the discussion, I was actually told it would
> be too much work, and that you didn't have the manpower.
> 
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