Re: Wayland by default on F25? Blockers?

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On Thu, 2016-09-01 at 12:05 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2016-08-17 at 19:07 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@gnom
> > e.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 2016-08-17 at 15:31 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > * cut and paste is still weird, but it seems to primarily be in
> > > > what
> > > > I
> > > > think are native wayland apps. EG I can't cut from epiphany/Web
> > > > and
> > > > paste into gEdit using either Ctrl/Shit Ins or Ctrl+c/v
> > > 
> > > There is no support for copy/paste in WebKit yet, sorry.
> > 
> > Actually this isn't just WebKit, I can't copy/paste from gEdit into
> > the gnome-shell search either
> 
> Just to tack on (a bit late) to the copy/paste talk, this bug:
> 
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758958
> 
> never seems to get much attention, but it's an extreme inconvenience
> for anyone who uses a password manager, which is lots of people. I
> cannot really run Wayland on any of my regular-use systems because of
> that bug, it's just not practical to manually re-type long randomly-
> generated passwords. And, of course, if you're in public, it's a huge
> security risk, because you have to leave the password visible on the
> screen so you can re-type it into the prompt.
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I also depend upon a password manager which I wrote and have used for
several years.  I began testing it on Wayland in Fedora 24 and found
that it failed to paste properly.  This week I have tested in Fedora 25
alpha.  The good news is after rebuilding it on F25 it works with
gedit.  The clipboard code is in C connected to python3 with
Cython.  The bad news is your problem with getting a password into SSH
described in bug #758958 fails for me too with code that works properly
now with gedit.  The shell uses Gtk3 but several of the Gtk3 clipboard
functions are not available by introspection through gjs. I know the
bugs will be fixed, but copying and pasting is a fundamental operation
for the user.  If it does not always work it should be fixed before
final release. 
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