On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 05:06:56PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 03:28:33AM -0400, Olivier Fourdan wrote: > > Hi Paul > > > > > > Thanks for the warning. We do want Wayland to be the default in the > > > > alpha release, so no action is required. If we decide to switch back to > > > > X11, we'll probably do it sometime between alpha release and beta > > > > freeze. > > > > > > Yes to all this. Olivier, could we get you to update the wiki page > > > please? <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WaylandByDefault> > > > > I tried to update this page to the best of my knowledge, but there is some overlap with <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Wayland_features> so I also linked to that page from <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WaylandByDefault> as well. > > > > Please let me know if that's what you had in mind, > > That's helpful, thank you. I think it would also be helpful -- not > just for me, really for FESCo, storytellers, and the community at > large -- to know how the features fall into categories: > > * Must be finished (modulo expected bugs) for F25 > * Expected to finish for F26 > * Nice-to-have but not a set time/release to finish > > If there are some clear trends in things users ask for that aren't > planned (anti-features?), we should collect those in the same place to > set proper expectations. I suspect these may be spelled out in one or > more design docs somewhere but need to be collated somehow. Sorry to respond to myself, I realized a wrinkle I didn't call out. We should make sure that completion measures are clear. Take for example this Wayland feature: <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Wayland_features#BLOCKER:_primary_selection> What does 100% mean here? How is that related to e.g. WebKit consumers/users? Again, a matter of setting expectations for what "done" means so it's not a moving goal post. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
