On 05/12/2016 05:18 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 04:34:41PM -0400, Jon Stanley wrote: >> Python module, and every other language known to man. I think that >> this invites a hard look at "who is our target audience and what do >> they want?" While I'm sure that *some* people would want an entire >> toolchain, I suspect it to be a vast minority of the target audience. > > For workstation: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Workstation_PRD#Target_Audience > Cases 2, 3 and 4 seem to apply, IMHO. I also think that since git is a command-line tool, it doesn't neatly align itself with being installable via GNOME Software, either. I see four possible approaches (from easiest to hardest): 1) Do nothing; git is installed by 'dnf' unless it's pulled in by something else. 2) Install git by default. 3) Locate or develop a useful git GUI tool (or Nautilus integration?) and promote that as an application or plugin through GNOME Software 4) Package up and promote a series of promoted Developer Suites that include it. (I'm thinking things like the equivalent of Microsoft Visual Studio or Apple Xcode; a complete set of tools and an IDE powering them). Personally, I'd love to see 4) selected and worked on as a medium-to-long-term goal in the Workstation SIG, ideally aligned with the Modularity work (with an eye on building a comprehensive suite of tools that would be installed together as a module). As a short-term solution, I think there's real value in either option 2 or 3. But given that git is so heavily used and has no discoverable installation mechanism, I'm not in favor of remaining with the current state.
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