I go back and forth with virt-manager and Boxes. The top two problems I'm having in Boxes that don't happen with virt-manager that relate to QA testing: GRUB2 doesn't respond to ctrl-x or f10 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=764002 So I can't add boot parameters like rd.break or rd.debug or systemd.log_level=debug and then F10 or CntrlX to boot. I can only issue cntl-alt-back, cntrl-alt-f1,2,7. And sometimes the GUI isn't on tty1, it's on 4, 5, 6 (like I think it is with netinstall?) once I switch to tty2, I'm hosed, I can't go back to the GUI. screen flicker at GDM, mouse click erratic response, black login screen https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=763960 This is Fedora 24 not usable once installed; the live environment is OK. I think the issue is that there isn't enough information to debug this but I don't know how to get more information. On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 5:54 AM, Jiri Eischmann <eischmann@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, > Boxes is the pre-installed solution for VMs on Workstation, but it > doesn't get as much attention as it should. > Currently development composes of F24 don't even work in Boxes on F23, > so users who'd like to test F24 in the default VM app are out of luck. > It clearly violates one of the release criteria:https://fedoraproject.o > rg/wiki/Fedora_24_Beta_Release_Criteria#Guest_on_current_stable_release I'll make a RHBZ of the screen flicker bug and nominate it. But as far as I know that criterion applies to virt-manager. If it works there but not Boxes, I doubt the bug would block. Maybe not even final release (?). Chris Murphy -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx