On 03/21/2016 01:02 PM, Kamil Paral wrote: >> In general, I agree with Michael that Evolution is fairly complicated and >> perhaps overpowered for an average user. That said, an email client is >> expected default functionality on a new computer and the backlash we would >> receive for not shipping one at all would be significant. There are still >> many people out there who use IMAP or POP email accounts with either no >> webmail interface or one that is far more painful even than Evolution to >> navigate (I'm looking at *you* Zimbra). > > I know no one who uses a desktop email client and is a "general user". > Literally, no one. And I tried remembering really hard :) I know some > colleagues who use it, but those are all power users and can easily install > it if needed. > I can list four individuals in my extended family alone, none of whom are "power users". But anecdotes are not statistics. > In my eyes, the world has moved on, and desktop email clients are used only > by old-timers, who will have no problem if new installs don't include it. > Right, because no old-timer has *ever* complained about their workflow changing? :) > It would be pretty unpleasant if we removed say LibreOffice or Totem, because > people want to click on a file and see it. That's something that should work > out of the box, without knowing which program to use or search for it > manually. But email clients require configuration anyway, and therefore it's > not something that works out of the box, you need to know explicitly what you > want to use and how to use it, and you need to non-trivially set it up before > use. This is actually a good framework for thinking about this, I believe. > Whether this is a software that enables you to work with something else > (usually a file) that you already have on your computer, or whether it is a > special-purpose software, and you even configure it to work properly > (requires accounts). In the latter case, it's much easier to avoid installing > them by default, because people already know the name of the software they > need (or they don't need it at all). > > Btw, if I search for "email" in gnome-software, the top results are Geary, > Evolution, Thunderbird and Trojitá, all reasonably good email clients. -- > desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >
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