On Sat, 2016-03-12 at 11:10 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > I have added Logs in Fedora just now, as I expect that will be > uncontroversial and I don't see any value in diverging from upstream > here. > > Bijiben is just not very good yet, and it's not under active > development. There's no good reason for us to diverge from upstream > here, and I expect it will be uncontroversial, so I've dropped it. I agree with these two changes. > I guess Evolution might be controversial; I use it religiously, and > many of you probably do too. But the user interface is complex and > confusing; users should not be exposed to this by default, barring > drastic UI changes that are outside the scope of the Evolution > project. > Evolution is a great mail client for power users, but I'm confident > that the average user will be better off with webmail services; folks > who want a desktop client can simply install one, after all. We > intend > to replace it with GNOME Mail eventually, but nobody has started > developing it yet. I propose we drop Evolution, but I have not done > so > yet, pending further discussion. I don't see any viable alternative. I think this may have to go in the same bucket as firefox. > Boxes has too many serious bugs right now, so it cannot go into > gnome- > core yet, but we intend it to eventually. Since this is a significant > application, I have not yet removed it from our default install, > pending further discussion. My main concern is that it would look odd > for us to remove such a significant app from the default install, > then > bring it back in a year or two. On the other hand, users won't notice > a > thing unless they make a habit of reinstalling Fedora, and it's not > good to include apps we can't fully recommend. It's not clear to me > what choice is best here. Please go into some more detail here. What are those serious bugs you allude to ? I'm not aware of them. > I propose we make temporary exceptions to keep Shotwell and > Rhythmbox, until their intended replacements, Photos and Music, move > into > upstream's GNOME core moduleset. That will very likely happen for > Photos for F25. I'm less certain about Music. I think we should make this replacement explicit goals for F25, and come up with criteria in advance for making this decision. -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
