Re: Case against Firefox in FESCo

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On 01/07/2016 09:23 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote:


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On 01/07/2016 08:32 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
Hi,

IMHO I say that Firefox lately gets problems, and we have better
browsers in the repository already. We have Web, and pretty much
usable.


With respect, "Web" is lacking many features that a workstation user
would rely on.

As someone who wrote the original certificate manager implementation [1] when Epiphany was Gecko powered, It never was enabled. And apparently never ported to webkit.

If Web authors still think it is a seldom used feature, They never had a business bank account where you need to be able to manage the certificates. Sometimes only for backing it up or installing it on another machine.

[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119090


What specific features is it missing?

It's not ready to be a default browser for Fedora IMHO.

It is my daily browser.

I was just running it now to try to get a list of some of its missing
features, such as a JavaScript debugging console,

It does, it's available via the inspector ("inspect element"), and you'll
see Javascript errors right there, along with a console, etc.

but it quite
literally was crashing on almost any operation except clicking on a
URL link. This is a Wayland Workstation on Rawhide.

There were problems with older versions of WebKitGTK+ in F23, but those have
been resolved in updates. The number one crash I see right now is the OOM
killed kicking in, and choosing the Web containers to kill instead of what's
really eating RAM...

So yeah, really not feeling that this is ready.

YMMV, but I'm very happy using it, along with Web Apps for my NAS' admin interface,
Zimbra's work webmail, my Web RSS reader, etc.
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