On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 09:45:50AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > Okay, so from what I understand thus far then: > > 1) If I upgrade to F23, I will either be left with F22 darktable and get > confused/frustrated when I try to upgrade it (eg when a new feature comes > out tha tI want,) or I will be left with a system that I cannot upgrade at > all (still an open question as to how obvious the workaround of removing > darktable would be?) > > 2) The Design Suite is going to either (a) drop darktable (b) be dropped > itself (c) massively overhauled to become a Fedora Remix. > > 3) Still don't understand the F23 experience of installing darktable. > > In terms of user experience, this simply sucks and makes me feel like > slavish adherence to obscure packaging rules is more important than our user > base. /me catches up with thread I'm not sure if 2(c) is necessary, if we have disabled repo support, but I don't understand how that works with the upgrade process. Need moar clue? But agreed, this is truly disappointing and doesn't appear that Fedora is acting like "friends" in the case of a well-maintained and tightly integrated upstream. A slavish, single-minded approach to all upstreams is going to basically force the state (brought up earlier in the thread) where meaningful future apps all go to COPR. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop