On Tue, 2015-05-12 at 14:26 -0400, Adam Batkin wrote: > > Some of us *want* to be able to see our IM client, new mail indicator > and an easily accessible icon for controlling a music player *at a > glance* (no clicking, mouse movements or keypresses). And then a > single click later an action is performed. Also, it's a cross-desktop > standard. > > I'm not saying that everyone wants that, but some of us do. And I > think enough of us want it that it could be better supported. I'd like all three of those too, but built-in to the shell, like in Unity, not using the current systray, which needs to die. I think it's past time to pull the plug on our systray in the bottom-left experiment: everybody hates it. > Yeah, probably. But it always felt like Classic was just a temporary > compatibility layer until everyone could be fully indoctrinated into > doing everything the One True Gnome Way. I think it's here to stay, so that Red Hat can sell RHEL. (And SUSE can sell SLED, but let's not pretend they still have influence in GNOME.) P.S. Most of us are reading all the emails; it's just a long thread, we can't reply to everyone. Suffice to say that this is a controversial issue, with developers on both sides. -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop