-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 hi It does allow us to improve, but not when the community cannot decide on a direction because one group wants the easiest solution, and the other wants a foss solution. And just to add my two cents in, windows has gotten better, yes. But it's still got cases where it cannot detect drivers. Neither OS is perfect. Windows does some things better than linux, and linux does some, I'm going to say a lot of, things better than windows. It all mostly comes down to the user. If the user is determined to like windows above anything else, than they can find reasons, eitehr true or not, to discount or otherwise discredit linux. The reverse is true. If a person is determined to use linux, windows could be the most user friendly OS in the world and that wouldn't dissuade them, so long as linux still remains competitive. And I'm not trying to get into a windows vs linux debate. I'm trying, as much as I can be, to be objective. I like linux, therefore I'm not much interested in what windows can and cannot do. I'll focus on improving linux for myself and the other disabled people. Thanks Kendell clark Sent from Fedora GNU/Linux drago01 wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Diogo Campos (gmail) > <diogocamposwd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Hi. Yes, again. [....] >> >> # Codecs = MP3, AAC, H.264, H.265, Vorbis, Opus, VP8, VP9. >> >> >> Windows: Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, No, No, No, No. >> >> Fedora: No, No, No, No, Yes, Yes, Yes,Yes. >> >> >> Conclusion: analyzing the 8 (4 audio, 4 video) current big codecs >> on the market, we have a tie! Is also worth noting that >> installing additional codecs on Windows is of a equivalent pain >> that on Fedora. > > Those codecs do not have an equal market share. > >> # Office Stuff = xls(x), doc(x), ppt(x), ods, odt, odp. >> >> >> Windows: No, No, No, No, No, No. >> >> Fedora: Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes. >> >> >> Conclusion: in (Microsoft) Windows, even to open files from >> another Microsoft product (Office), you can't without additional >> work from you (or someone else). > > Well you can open doc/x files using Wordpad. But given that most > OEMs ship some version of Office that's a moot point. > >> >> # Miscellaneous = PDF, torrent, common archives. >> >> >> Windows: No(!), No, No. >> >> Fedora: Yes, Yes(?), Yes (except RAR, for no reason). > > Where is the free RAR implementation? (That's probably the only > reason) > > And btw. I don't think installing a torrent client by default makes > any sense. > > As for PDF that's true but OEMs tend to include something. > >> # Graphic Cards = Intel, AMD, Nvidia. >> >> >> Windows: No, No, No. > > -> Wrong; Wrong; Wrong > >> Fedora: Yes, Yes, Yes. >> >> >> Conclusion: Oh, boy! Windows without video drivers is pure >> garbage! You have to, at minimum, select to install the driver on >> Windows Update to have 2D (and 3D) acceleration! Sometimes even >> to have the correct resolution! On other hand, Fedora comes with >> all these preinstalled! Yay! > > The days of Windows XP are over. This has been much better i.e > "just works" since Vista. > > So you might not like it but it "works better" out of the box for > most people. > > "Oh windows is bad" doesn't really help us ... "Windows does X and > Y better" OTOH does because it allows us to improve. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVUc6iAAoJEGYgJ5/kqBTdac4P/3lb3aMvxnAEWAJcRLHXgkDp 7YSJ1muFT3jZLF80e9mHFF1QLIj5KINFZ66ol2ZKtX9lWhpS741WWigL9FPPGAAI YEGukNdyBu73SEbZ9JcEVUsLXdmCaDXBjMWqIxrSNyHcBFEteCmW7URN2RBJZ7I1 tCNiDc8IFyWHM+z5HKHqEYdwaao6Mu8tTmeChxdaTyTbYFq0reggrMZNpA9WORHm tj051MxzTK2AI//OBhFQzNtFzfxafkSYZTZS3Wfx9jwS4CBOjCGv2xZPmg5EghbC Sv8rEuj+oCMxHWh1CxaME9bQZmJ47iGpwFxLN6WpG9mnpr9DuqLSx3/kU90yh9nB VaunavsMXluAl9rzq6kCgvt7SU2BVFCR5ZuEysKqYhz8g3YYg535azVCkpxZ0XPX q+Zt9nrmmb+otuHahC8148BsQaTtAtFcYdwD1pU7ulgC+3gM3fiPJjVa0VKoqXTu keCoLWadJcpbezSf7fxkNr4G82i8z22v7fbQgFHlWolgN89JM5PBUfzTNMXDI/CY KeaqttAXzvCAWxmKpsSChlX4ZYgbNvGv3/KSOUqf2d/dV9WJSL5o9pyuSJo3eyZR TjT30LOpQ239FVvmXT38X+SOg33tvP0rnXDaSCHEhjR5NH5Sm2GvH07Xb+eMQ99G s18i4x8cqF+Fk9hQDJno =EDHi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop