----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Robinson" <pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop" <desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:24:25 AM Subject: Re: Instant Messaging in Fedora Workstation On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Allan Day <allanpday@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > ... >> This isn't true: neither control-center nor gnome-shell depends on >> Empathy in Fedora 22 (in fact, not a single package on my computer >> does). > > According to jhbuild, both the shell and online accounts depend on > telepathy-glib. And even if these aren't strict dependencies, there is > integration... Empathy is basically a graphical front end for the telepathy communications [1] stack which is made up of a number of components which in turn provide XMPP/link-local/pidgin frontend etc. Is the plan to just reimplement the front end UX and keep the backends and hence not have to reimplement a chunk of the various integration points or to reimplement the while lot, presumably there could be OTR/Telegram integrated with that stack? I don't think anyone wants to reinvent the wheel. So if there is any new client in the works it will be based on Telepathy. Polari, the new IRC client for GNOME, is also based on Telepathy. However the problem is that there don't seem to be enough people interested in working on IM clients any more. Telepathy lacks support for new networks and features and Empathy hasn't seen any noticable development for years. Jiri -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop